From: Stephanie C (stepchung@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Aug 13 2005 - 19:57:16 EDT
Thanks to the following experts:
Bill Hassel
JetDirect is not for printer management at all. It is used to
form a connection with HP printers using the proprietary JetDirect
protocol. Non-HP printers can be connected to an HP JetDirect
external box and JetDirect will work, but for non-HP printers,
their LAN card is a very simple remote-printer. So you use SAM
to add the non-HP printers as remote (not "network" printers).
NOTE: For each non-HP printer, the LAN card has an internal name
for itself and you'll need this name in order to add the printer
using SAM. The internal name should be documented in the LAN
card's manual or the manufacturer can provide this. All similar
LAN cards will have the same name, which might be prn, txt, lp,
raw, text, etc. There is no to guess this name and without it,
the printer can't be added.
John Adams
By the way, the problem we've had with non-HP printers isn't the ping
command, it's an oddball SNMP query that fails.
We've also found that creating remote queues (man lpadmin) works well
for some non-HP non-JetDirect-attached remote printers.
Timothy <pickelt@comcast.net>
My previous company (RR Donnelley & Sons) used Dazel and wanted a cheaper
alternative so we tried LINUX CUPS. The Dazel Admin was able to duplicate
all the Dazel functionality using CUPS and SAMBA. Both are freeware. You may
want to investigate the possibility of creating a LINUX server running SAMBA
and CUPS to service your printing needs.
Point your "spooler name" to an existing IP, hppi will query the printer sna
setup
the queue, then move the 'spool name' to the correct address.
Dan Zucker
I have been seting up many printers as 5si or laserjet4050's. All my
printers
are HP, but OA is set up by the DBA, and she can not find the Oracle
driver for newer printers, so I keep using 4050.
Brett Geer
Do what we did, install a little linux box on a old PC and load cups, then
they wanted to print to windows boxes (I mean come on), so I had one of my
staff load samba, poof windows problem solved. Then they wanted an automatic
formfeed after the jobs on two queues... damn built-in cards wouldn't do it,
but thankfully since I had the source I could compile a new driver.
I'd do the cups thing, it's not pretty but it does the job and it looks like
a SYSV spooler so its easy to manage and if you have any old-timers, it's
got a BSD style interface, I print to it from the HP's like a BSD spooler
and it handles the rest for me.
Rita Workman
I remember the joy of replacing OpenSpool. Needed something to print
to our Xerox printers across town...and to have the operators control
the printjobs.
We found two products, very similar. One was called EasySpooler
and the other was called OMPlus. We purchased OMPlus, and
it has worked well for us. But both are good products.
Jim Turner
We setup non-HP printers as remote (lpd) printers. Most network
printers have an imbedded lpd server. The remote server name is the
DNS name or IP address of the printer. The remote queue name can be
found in the printer documentation or by referencing
http://www.brooksnet.com/faq/210-04.html
Andy Cranston
Although HP have discontinued support for HP JetDirect I still use it both
on our engineering network at work and also on my home network. It works
great for me.
As for mixing non-hp printers and Jet direct printers using the standard
HP-UX spooler this should work. The non-hp printers should be supplied
with their own drivers and network printing software which should co-exist
with jet-direct.
In reality all jet direct is is a few shell scripts that plug into the
hp-ux spooler which then call some dedicated jet direct executables to do
the actual network connectivity to transfer the data.
3rd party network software for printers that plug into the hp-ux spooler
generally use a very similar approach although precise details will differ.
Just as trying to use jet direct to talk a 3rd party printer won't work
trying to use 3rd party software to talk to a jet direct printer won't work
either.
Contact the vendors of your third party printers for help. They should be
keen to assist as the alternative is that you go for a HP only printing
solution which would cut them out of the loop.
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