RE: Pre-Scanning for Marketing

From: Shenk, Jerry A (jshenk@decommunications.com)
Date: Tue Jan 10 2006 - 17:58:59 EST


We did it once where it worked well, once where the sales person gave
the customer everything during the sales process (duh...) and a few
times where basically nothing happened. I'd say that a lot of it rests
on the shoulders of sales.

In the one that worked well, I was working for a client in the area and
I collected some unencrypted traffic and realized it wasn't my customer.
I also realized that some of the information looked like personal
information and after looking at it a little closer, that personal
information seemed to be accompanied by credit card numbers. It took
nearly a year to get an engagement for a wireless audit from that
customer. We then did a follow-up audit and another one later.

The one where we gave the information away, I was asked for a document
specifying what I'd found. I recommended that we NOT do that but I was
overruled. Once they got that information, they had everything they
needed to make a case internally that the wireless APs needed to be
secured (30 or so in a hospital) and they took care of it. Well, I
don't know how well they took care of it 'cuz I never did an audit but I
do know that the traffic was now WEPped so at least it wasn't plain text
across the air anymore.

A number of other times, there was no response.

I've also pointed out wireless security flaws to customers that I've
already been involved with. That went much better but that's not really
what you're asking about.

-----Original Message-----
From: Password Crackers, Inc. [mailto:pwcrack@pwcrack.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:11 AM
To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: Pre-Scanning for Marketing

I am interested if anyone on the list has ever tested or implemented a
marketing program that involved pre-scanning (wired or wireless) a
prospect
and then sending a letter or email describing potential vulnerabilities
and
offering assistance in closing these vulnerabilities. I have never done
this because of the anticipated negative reaction, but I am curious as
to
what the outcome was if anyone else has done it. Single instances would
be
interesting, but I am more curious if anyone has implemented this in a
more
broad-based way and has positive and/or negative response rate
statistics.

Bob Weiss
Password Crackers, Inc.


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