From: StyleWar (stylewar@cox.net)
Date: Sun Aug 06 2006 - 12:26:24 EDT
So - by your logic - if you bring a bangin sharp pen-tester in, and he's
caught and his ingress methods are mitigated while still in the footprinting
stage, that a pen-test did not actually occur... is that it? Or -- if
physical security is 'pen-tested' and the tester is caught in the parking
lot without credentials... no pen test existed or occurred eh?
Quit trying to convince yourself of your own dogma and read for
comprehension.
Sol wrote:
>>
>> In the hands of a good pen tester, a pen test does NOT have to exploit
>> vulnerabilities in order to achieve its value proposition.
>If there's no verification of the vulnerabilities using exploits then it's
not a Penetration test. What part of >penetration don't you understand?
Anything less is a Vulnerability assessment. Period.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: StyleWar [mailto:stylewar@cox.net]
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 7:01 PM
>>> To: sol@haveyoubeentested.org; 'Mark Ausley, CISSP'
>>> Cc: pen-test@securityfocus.com
>>> Subject: RE: Vulnerability Assessment vs. PenTest
>>>
>>> I can break it down like legos.
>>>
>>> The value proposition of a pen test is an understanding of
>>> whether the investment into detection and response is at an
>>> appropriate level.
>>>
>>> The value proposition of a vulnerability assessment is an
>>> understanding of whether internal controls such as patch
>>> management, physical security etc.
>>> are adequate given a specific risk tolerance.
[snip]
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