Re: Hacker Stories, Certs, vs Projects - Was Re: Technitium MAC Address Changer v3.1 (FREEWARE)

From: Bob Foxworth (rfoxwor1@tampabay.rr.com)
Date: Sun Jul 30 2006 - 17:18:38 EDT


> > The "practical application" portion of the CISCO CCIE
> > certification is why organizations can trust the CCIE job
> > applicant can serve a useful cisco networking function in
> > their organization.

> Actually, the CCIE is not a practical application, it's an
> hands-on but definitely not practical. It's just esoteric, with
> questions that conflict with each others just to make sure that
> you have an in-depth knowledge.
>
> If you did this in a real world, your network would be so slow
> and inefficient that it will become unusable.

The CCIE consists of a traditional exam followed by a
lab. The lab is offered only in a few selected locations,
RTP and San Jose come to mind. The lab used to be two full
days. It was changed to a single day, reportedly because
so many candidates were busting out on the first day, that
the 2nd day's reserved time was going to waste. With a
year's advance booking time for scheduled lab exams,
this was causing a lot of wasted opportunity time.

I have heard stories of people advertising themselves
as "passed CCIE written". Some have reportedly
failed lab several times, at somewhere around $1k per
exam. Stories I have heard include such things as
being given a lab setup with a signal pin in one of
the cables having been broken off. The idea is to test
the candidates' ability to examine _all_ possible
scenarios involved in getting a config up and running.

There are time constraints in completing the lab setup
that is given to the candidate.

and, no, I am not a CCIE.

- Bob

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