AW: S85 not quite right !!

From: Holger.VanKoll@SWISSCOM.COM
Date: Mon Jun 30 2003 - 13:39:16 EDT


never set maxfree to less than minfree+maxpgahead

so, set it to 128+64 and see if that changes something

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Spencer Johnson [mailto:Spencer.Johnson@2020LOG.COM]
                Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:34 AM
                To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
                Subject: Re: S85 not quite right !!

                Thanks for replies Mark / Simon,

                To answer some of your questions :

                - Disks are 50% active on average is quite good as this means layout of database is good.

                - Our vmtune settings are currently :

                vmtune: current values:
                  -p -P -r -R -f -F -N -W
                minperm maxperm minpgahead maxpgahead minfree maxfree pd_npages maxrandwrt
                 104855 209711 2 64 128 144 524288 0

                  -M -w -k -c -b -B -u -l -d
                maxpin npswarn npskill numclust numfsbufs hd_pbuf_cnt lvm_bufcnt lrubucket defps
                1677691 100608 25152 1 93 1584 9 131072 1

                        -s -n -S -L -g -h
                sync_release_ilock nokilluid v_pinshm lgpg_regions lgpg_size strict_maxperm
                        0 0 0 0 0 0

                 -t
                maxclient
                1676868

                number of valid memory pages = 2097113 maxperm=10.0% of real memory
                maximum pinable=80.0% of real memory minperm=5.0% of real memory
                number of file memory pages = 942297 numperm=44.9% of real memory

                number of compressed memory pages = 0 compressed=0.0% of real memory
                number of client memory pages = 0 numclient=0.0% of real memory
                # of remote pgs sched-pageout = 0 maxclient=80.0% of real memory

                -------- IBM have also suggest turning sync_release_ilock (s) to 1 and strict_maxperm (h) to 1.

                I will be shortly upgrading our Dev server to ML 11, will let you know how I get on.

                Spencer

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Green, Simon [mailto:Simon.Green@EU.ALTRIA.COM]
                        Sent: 30 June 2003 15:29
                        To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
                        Subject: Re: S85 not quite right !!

                        The only problems I have experienced - other than an actual shortage of resources - have been due to the wrong vmtune settings. (And remember that the default settings are NOT good for a database.)
                        It's worth considering AIO as well, but I've never had a problem with that.

                        The sort of settings I use are:
                        /usr/samples/kernel/vmtune -p3 -P8 -b400

                        That's taken from an 8-way S7A with 8GB memory, running SAP with a 750GB database. It's quite busy, but has almost no paging. It's based on our experience and recommendations from SAP.

                        If you don't have something similar - particularly the -p/-P - then take care of that before tackling anything else.

                        When you say the disks are "only 50% busy" what do you mean? If that's either I/O Wait or % active then I'd say it's on the high side. What sort of disk subsystem do you have?

                        Simon Green
                        Altria ITSC Europe Ltd

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                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Spencer Johnson [mailto:Spencer.Johnson@2020LOG.COM]
                                Sent: 30 June 2003 14:49
                                To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
                                Subject: S85 not quite right !!

                                Hi list,

                                I have a slight problem / issue, this is related to an 7017-S85 server, connected to F20 ESS. The server is a 6W - 8 GB RAM running Oracle 8.1.7.4 with
                                database instance of approx. 1 TB.

                                The problem is that most operations (coping files, etc) cause the system to page and send the CPU's into Wait state constantly, I have logged a call with IBM and they have
                                come back with a few suggestions of changing vmtune parameters.

                                Oracle is tuned to allow for 6W processors but I feel that the O/S is being restricted by something. The disks do not perform that much work (only 50% busy at max).

                                The O/S is currently at 4.3.3 ML 10, but am considering going to ML 11.

                                Has anyone out there had similar experiences and how have they been overcome.

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