From: Sheets, Jerald (JSHeets@OLOLRMC.COM)
Date: Wed Jan 22 2003 - 15:17:53 EST
Well, since the only (marginally) viable candidate is Solaris, I think it
would be a waste to talk Linux/Intel. WHen you start using big ERP software
like PeopleSoft, Lawson, Cerner, etc. Anyone suggesting anything other than
Sun or IBM is just asking for trouble.
Our Linux cluster(2 machines) barely handles the load put on it by the PACS
imaging system. We're convincing Cerner to write it for AIX to get it off
the substandard Intel. The issue is not necessarily Linux, just intel.
I'm not as familiar with HP other than I've been in three separate scenarios
where organizations were moving off HP for AIX or Solaris. I *do* know that
big outfits like Tupperware use HP, though.
AIX - Don't leave it. You already have the hardware. I would also question
where that figure came from because Oracle tells us that Sun & IBM are
"about the same", and that Oracle doesn't prefer one over the other. In my
personal experience, my AIX machines have been more flexible and resilient
than Solaris ones. My guess is going to be (whether wrong or right) that a
vendor is saying this to your DBA's to get them to purchase hardware (where
the money is made). I'd wonder just how that came about. IBM still has
more powerful machines, and continue to dominate the "Top200" lists with
products. I just don't see Sun represented to the extent IBM is.
In contrast, I look on the Oracle website, and they mention IBM less. I
think the burden of proof is on the DBA's to bring Oracle corporation in on
this dialogue, and force Oracle to say that Sun is better. I know for a
*fact* my S80's in an HACMP configuration will blowout the E10k any day in
performance and reliability (similarly configured).
Sun - next choice. It's just as solid and stable as AIX, it just comes from
a SystemV tradition (I think) as opposed AIX's BSD background. Thing is,
both platforms have utilities built in to support each style. "6 of one,
half dozen of the other" so to speak.
Linux : not for mission critical software like Oracle. Unless you're
building something like KLAT2 (http://aggregate.org/KLAT2/) to support
Oracle (and Oracle can use it to the full potential) I reserve Linux for
DNS, Web, Sendmail MTAs, hard storage, and print serving.
I hope that helps, and wasn't too terribly religious. :-)
Jerald M. Sheets
Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator
Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center
225-765-8734
-----Original Message-----
From: Theresa Sarver [mailto:tsarver.IFMC@SDPS.ORG]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:09 PM
To: aix-l@Princeton.EDU
Subject: AIX vs SUN - HP - Linux
Hi all;
Current Environment:
SP 9076 - 1 Frame, 7 Nodes
AIX 433 ML10
PSSP 32
IBM 3494 (w/ 2 3590 drives)
TSM 415 (soon to be 5x)
TDP/Oracle and RMAN
Oracle 816, 817, 9i
Apache ??
Netscape ??
And a whole slew of homemade Apps made in whatever product happened to be
hot that particular month.
I just received word this morning that management is now considering moving
OFF of AIX and onto either HP, SUN, or LINUX...and basically I need to study
the pro's/con's of each vendor for a meeting later this week. So if anyone
has any websites or personal experiences with any of these other OS's I'd
really appreciate any feedback.
For example how would you rate each vendor's ease of administration for the
oprating system and hardware, overall support, performance and reliability,
or anything else you could think of.
As for what is driving the "potential change", I guess the DBA's/Developers
are frusterated that AIX is considered a 5th tier platform by Oracle (Sun
being #1) and as they have so much invested in Oracle...we need to evaluate
other hardware. ;)
God I love this job!
Thanks for the feedback;
Theresa
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