From: Tru64 User (tru64user@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Aug 08 2002 - 10:04:48 EDT
Thanks to all that replied.....very useful
information. quick summary posted below.
Question that arose in some replies and answered in
others included: what board i was using (found it to
be KZPSC with firmware ver.2.36) and also i am have
HSZ70 controllers on the ESA10000.
_Thanks all
*****SUMMARY of RESPONSES*****
The ES45 and 4100 are very different hardware
platforms, so it's no
big
surprise that CPU cards or memory cant be reused..
Both systems have a PCI card bus, so should be able
to reuse most
(if not all) of your PCI cards. The Tulip Ethernet
card (ADVISED TO UPGRADE TO DE600) FDDI card (WE ARE
PHASING THIS OFF) and
the Qlogic ISP (KZPSA?) SCSI cards should work just
fine, but not
positive about the SWXCR RAID controllers
Your old StorageWorks drives and shelves will not be
interchangable
with
the internal drive cage of the ES45 -- They use
entirely different
drives and shelves. You can still use the BA shelves
to store disks, and
connect them to SCSI controllers on the new ES45 (SCSI
is still SCSI after all),but the internal drives on
the ES45 will be new, thinner Compaq disk
units on a different kind of shelf.
The disk controllers, video card (if any), and enet
controllers should all move but the current
equivalents are both better and cheap enough that you
will probably only be saving a couple of hundred
dollars. The leaving of the AS4100 production-capable
is probably much more valuable. The days of $7K
video cards and $2.5K SCSI cards are long gone.
>From the August 2002 QuickSpec, neither of the KZPSC
or KZPAC are supported on the ES45.
If disk devices are called re something by Unix then
you are probably using KZPSC's (DAC960's) and they are
no longer supported but probably work and
they are just fine for serving the system partitions
(/, /usr, /var etc.) but they are obselete for
serving data in the modern world.
And last, but not least::You are looking at a
"forklift upgrade".
--- Tru64 User <tru64user@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am supposed to come up with information about an
> upgrade from an Alpha server 4100 to an ES45.
> Inclusive should be what hardware in the current
> Alpha
> 4100 is movable into the ES45, so we dont
> re-purchase
> anything.
>
> This will be my first oppotunity to work with a box
> from the ground up, and have no idea in what shape
> and
> form Alpha hardware are delivered.
>
>
> The basics we are looking for right now is 1ghz cpu
> offered with ES45 systems, and an increase in memory
> from our current 2GB to 8GB. We would like to keep
> our
> ESA10000, if possible, without modifications.
>
> I have downloaded, and am reading, the QuickSpecs
> pdf
> document for Alpha ES45. There are 19 steps listed
> in
> total, too much info. to digest (still trying).
>
> Question:
>
>
> How interchangeable are things like Disk Drive
> cage,
> system disk drives (re's), ethernet adapters, memory
> modules,scsi host adapters between the two machines?
>
> I have pulled hardware inventory (well, sort of)
> from
> /var/adm/messages (see list below) and from
> syscheck,
> but that still does not offer me much to work with.
>
> Experiences on your hardware deliveries / research
> methods will be highly appreciated.
>
> _Thanks
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> : Alpha boot: available memory from 0x256e000 to
> 0x9fff6000
> : Digital UNIX V4.0G (Rev. 1530); Sat Jun 1
> 12:59:20 EDT 2002
> : physical memory = 2048.00 megabytes.
> : available memory = 2002.66 megabytes.
> : using 2618 buffers containing 20.45 megabytes
> of
> memory
> : Master cpu at slot 0.
> : Firmware revision: 5.7
> : PALcode: UNIX version 1.23
> : Alpha 4100 5/466 4MB
> : pci1 at mcbus0 slot 5
> : psiop0 at pci1 slot 1
> : Loading SIOP: script c0000900, reg 7f9ec00,
> data
> c000a898
> : scsi0 at psiop0 slot 0
> : rz5 at scsi0 target 5 lun 0 (LID=0) (DEC
> RRD45 (C) DEC 1645)
> : tu0: DECchip 21140: Revision: 2.0
> : tu0: auto negotiation capable device
> : tu0 at pci1 slot 2
> : tu0: DEC TULIP (10/100) Ethernet Interface,
> hardware address: ##-##-##-##-##-##
> : tu0: auto negotiation off: selecting 100BaseTX
> (UTP) port: half duplex
> : Initializing xcr0. Please wait....
> : xcr0 at pci1 slot 3
> : re0 at xcr0 unit 0 (unit status = ONLINE, raid
> level = JBOD)
> : re1 at xcr0 unit 1 (unit status = ONLINE, raid
> level = 0)
> : re2 at xcr0 unit 2 (unit status = ONLINE, raid
> level = 5)
> : re3 at xcr0 unit 3 (unit status = ONLINE, raid
> level = JBOD)
> : re4 at xcr0 unit 4 (unit status = ONLINE, raid
> level = JBOD)
> : re5 at xcr0 unit 5 (unit status = ONLINE, raid
> level = JBOD)
> : Initializing xcr1. Please wait....
> : xcr1 at pci1 slot 4
> : re8 at xcr1 unit 8 (unit status = OFFLINE, raid
> level = 5)
> : re9 at xcr1 unit 9 (unit status = OFFLINE, raid
> level = 5)
> : isp0 at pci1 slot 5
>
> : isp0: QLOGIC ISP1040B/V2 - Differential Mode
> : isp0: Firmware revision 5.57 (loaded by
> console)
> : isp0: Fast RAM timing enabled.
> : scsi1 at isp0 slot 0
> : rzb9 at scsi1 target 1 lun 1 (LID=2) (DEC
> HSZ70 V73Z) (Wide16)
> : rzc9 at scsi1 target 1 lun 2 (LID=3) (DEC
> HSZ70 V73Z) (Wide16)
> : rz10 at scsi1 target 2 lun 0 (LID=9) (DEC
> HSZ70 V73Z) (Wide16)
> : rzd10 at scsi1 target 2 lun 3 (LID=12) (DEC
> HSZ70 V73Z) (Wide16)
> : gpc0 at eisa0
> : pci0 at mcbus0 slot 4
> : eisa0 at pci0
> : ace0 at eisa0
> : fd0 at fdi0 unit 0
> : trio0 at pci0 slot 2
> : trio0: S3 Trio64 (SVGA) Plug-N-Play, 1.0 Mb
> : isp1 at pci0 slot 3
> : isp1: QLOGIC ISP1040B/V2 - Differential Mode
> : isp1: Firmware revision 5.57 (loaded by
> console)
> : isp1: Fast RAM timing enabled.
> : scsi2 at isp1 slot 0
> : rz17 at scsi2 target 1 lun 0 (LID=17) (DEC
> HSZ70 V73Z) (Wide16)
> : rzb17 at scsi2 target 1 lun 1 (LID=18) (DEC
> HSZ70 V73Z) (Wide16)
> : rzc18 at scsi2 target 2 lun 2 (LID=27) (DEC
> HSZ70 V73Z) (Wide16)
> : rzd18 at scsi2 target 2 lun 3 (LID=28) (DEC
> HSZ70 V73Z) (Wide16)
> : isp2 at pci0 slot 4
> : isp2: QLOGIC ISP1040B/V2 - Differential Mode
> : isp2: Firmware revision 5.57 (loaded by
> console)
> : isp2: Fast RAM timing enabled.
> : scsi3 at isp2 slot 0
> : changer at scsi3 target 0 lun 0 (LID=33) (DEC
>
> TL800 (C) DEC 0326) (Wide16)
> : tz28 at scsi3 target 4 lun 0 (LID=34) (DEC
> TZ89 (C) DEC 1837) (Wide16)
> : tz29 at scsi3 target 5 lun 0 (LID=35) (DEC
> TZ89 (C) DEC 1837) (Wide16)
> : fta0 DEC DEFPA FDDI Module, Hardware Revision 0
> : fta0 at pci0 slot 5
> : fta0: DEC DEFPA (PDQ) FDDI Interface, Hardware
> address: ##-##-##-##-##-##
> : fta0: Firmware rev: 3.20
> : Created FRU table binary error log packet
> : kernel console: trio0
> : dli: configured
> : i2c: Management Hardware Present
>
>
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