From: Rodgers Rodney Contr 13 AF/SAIC (rodney.rodgers@andersen.af.mil)
Date: Thu Apr 15 2004 - 19:02:07 EDT
Summary
In reply to my question on scripts, I would like to thank all who replied.
Andrew J Caines , Andrew Hay, Larye D. Parkins, Reggie Beavers, Dave Booth
just to name a few. I was pleasantly surprise at the response. Most agreed
that they do not know of any specific newsgroups for scripting but many
offered to help personally.
In summary then, I would like to include Brian Gerards response since he
offered quit a bit of information for anyone with similar needs in scripting
assistance. He includes many books and links.
Thank you again
Respectfully,
Rodney
Subject: Re: Scripts
Rodgers Rodney said...
> I have acquired a sun box and am now responsible for it. I need a bit of
> help with some complex scripts.
>
> I was wondering if any of you gurus knew of some groups for this forum.
Help
> with scripts.
> I know this site is not for that purpose.
>
>
Hrm. I'm not having a whole lot of luck googling for shell scripting
mailing
lists, so I'll give you some pointers to other resources.
First and foremost, if you don't have a good, solid O'Reilly library, now
would
be a good time to start one. :) Their site is http://www.oreilly.com. As
one
of my taglines states: O'Reilly is to a system administrator what a
shoulder-length latex glove is to a veterinarian. :)
My top recommendations (You can find them at http://linux.oreilly.com/) :
UNIX in a Nutshell
- An essential desktop reference - mine has seen constant use since
I
got it almost 10 years ago. It has chapters on Bourne/Korn, csh,
regular expressions, basic commands, and loads more. It's
presented
in a sort of "summary" form. Not the "friendliest" format for
beginners, but you can use it to learn. ...I did. :)
Learning the bash Shell
Learning the Korn Shell
- These two are pretty much what their titles say. They teach you
both
the command line and scripting, and will give you some good depth
with
both. The only downside is that not all of bash & Korn syntax can
be
used in Bourne, but it can at least give you a good basis to start
from.
Unix Power Tools
- A THICK compilation of articles by unix experts, on topics ranging
from scripting to shell customization to how TTYs work, and just
about
anything else you can imagine. I can pick this book up, turn to a
random page, and learn something new every time.
Also, I just found this one from an O'Reilly partner, No Starch Press
(there's a
link to it off of the above page) :
Wicked Cool Shell Scripts
- I obviously haven't read it, but the description says that it has
101
shell scripts, all written in Bourne, that are varied and
customizable. Since I've learned a lot just from reading other
people's scripts, I figured that might be a good one to look into.
I'll be ordering a copy, I can tell you. :)
So, in addition to books, websites are obviously invaluable:
http://www.ugu.com
The Unix Guru Universe - They're attempting to collect as much Unix
knowledge as possible in a single website, links, articles, and all.
They've got what looks like a fairly good beginners section.
http://www.stokely.com/unix.sysadm.resources/
Unix System Administrator's Resources from Stokely Consulting -
BOATLOADS of links to BOATLOADS of topics. :)
http://docs.sun.com
Don't forget Sun's own documentation.
http://sunsolve.sun.com
You need a login for some things here, but there are others that you
can
get to for free. A handy site, regardless. If your management
hasn't
sprung for a membership here, you should ask them for one. There
are
patches and other useful goodies (including a LOAD of infodocs) that
you
can't have without it.
http://www.sunmanagers.org
Let's not forget the archives. ;)
Last but not least, Usenet is still occasionally useful. A few groups to
look
into are:
comp.unix.solaris
comp.unix.shell
comp.sys.sun.admin
If you do go this route, I would HIGHLY suggest getting a free account
somewhere
to post from. One post and you can be spammed into oblivion if you're not
careful. YMMV.
As for perl, I would again point you to O'Reilly for books. The following
are
what I would recommend, in order:
Learning Perl
Programming Perl
Perl Cookbook
Advanced Perl Programming
Once you get through those, you'll be something of a perl.god. ;)
There _is_ a perl beginners mailing list. You can find the subscribe info
at
http://lists.perl.org/showlist.cgi?name=beginners
It's a fairly high-traffic list, but you can ask just about anything without
fear of being flamed, and you generally get at least three or four answers
to
any given question. Sometimes more, just depends on the topic. Another
nice
thing is that even though it's high traffic, most of the traffic is
legitimate
discussion of beginning perl topics.
Well, I hope this helps. Sorry I wasn't able to find a list for beginning
shell
scripting. :( If you find one, please let me know (or just summarize your
question to sunmanagers ;). I'm always looking to expand my reference
links. :)
HTH-
Brian
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