From: David Foster (foster@dim.ucsd.edu)
Date: Tue Jul 08 2003 - 14:14:10 EDT
In order to compile Perl 5.8.0 64-bit using gcc 3.2.1 on our E420R I
needed to specify -shared:
* Add -shared to the link line, in addition to -Wl,-E -G, for instance:
LD_RUN_PATH="" gcc -Wl,-E -G -L/usr/local/lib -shared \
bsd_glob.o Glob.o -o ../../../lib/auto/File/Glob/Glob.so
* In config.sh:
lddlflags=' -Wl,-E -G -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib/pic/sparcv9 -shared'
* In Makefile:
LDDLFLAGS = -Wl,-E -G -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib/pic/sparcv9 -shared
Thanks to Kevin P. Inscoe! He sent me the following link:
http://www.netsys.com/sunmgr/1999-01/msg00100.html
One suggestion to bail on gcc as it's support for 64-bit is still
pretty flaky (I agree). I had already tried Sun's Workshop 6.0 and
Forte compilers and got even worse results, plus I really wanted to
stay with gcc since you need to use the same compiler for your Perl
modules.
Thanks to:
Glenn Harrison
Peter Evans
Kevin P. Inscoe
>
> Platform: SunOS cressida 5.8 Generic_108528-18 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-80
> Compiler: gcc 3.2.1
> Currently installed perl: binary of 5.8.0 from www.sunfreeware.com (32-bit)
>
>
> Ughhh!
>
> I have a pressing need to get our Perl 5.8.0 compiled 64-bit.
> I _finally_ got through the configuration stage and I think I
> have a pretty sane config.sh (attached).
>
> But the make bombs out with:
>
> gcc -L/usr/local/lib -o miniperl \
> miniperlmain.o opmini.o libperl.a
> /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparcv9-sun-solaris2.8/3.2.1/../../../../sparcv9-sun-s
> olaris2.8/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/local/lib/libgcc.so when searchi
> ng for -lgcc
> /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparcv9-sun-solaris2.8/3.2.1/../../../../sparcv9-sun-s
> olaris2.8/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/local/lib/libgcc.so when searchi
> ng for -lgcc
> libperl.a(util.o): In function `Perl_my_socketpair':
> util.o(.text+0x6270): undefined reference to `socketpair'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_pow':
> pp.o(.text+0x3d78): undefined reference to `pow'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_modulo':
> pp.o(.text+0x4bcc): undefined reference to `floor'
> pp.o(.text+0x4c08): undefined reference to `floor'
> pp.o(.text+0x4c84): undefined reference to `fmod'
> [...]
>
> which proceeds to list a bunch of routines from -lm, -lsocket and -lnsl.
> A full log of the make is in the attached file Install.make2.Apr2.2003
>
> But in my config.sh:
>
> libsfiles=' libsocket.so.1 libnsl.so.1 libdl.so.1 libm.so.1 libc.so.1'
> libsfound=' /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsocket.so.1 /usr/lib/sparcv9/libnsl.so.1 /usr
> /lib/sparcv9/libdl.so.1 /usr/lib/sparcv9/libm.so.1 /usr/lib/sparcv9/libc.so.1
> '
> [...]
> libswanted='sfio socket bind inet nsl nm ndbm gdbm dbm db dl dld sun m c cpos
> ix posix ndir dir bsd BSD PW x util '
>
>
> WTF? I don't see anything in the archives or FAQ.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> David Foster National Center for Microscopy and Imaging Research
> Programmer/Analyst University of California, San Diego
> dfoster[at]ucsd[dot]edu Department of Neuroscience, Mail 0608
> (858) 534-7968 http://ncmir.ucsd.edu/
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
> depends on the unreasonable." -- George Bernard Shaw
>
> [demime 0.99c.7 removed an attachment of type APPLICATION/x-sun-shell-script
which had a name of config.sh]
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" miniperlmain.o` miniperlmain.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" perl.o` perl.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" gv.o` gv.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" toke.o` toke.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" perly.o` perly.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" op.o` op.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" regcomp.o` regcomp.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" dump.o` dump.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" util.o` util.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" mg.o` mg.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" reentr.o` reentr.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" hv.o` hv.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" av.o` av.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" run.o` run.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" pp_hot.o` pp_hot.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" sv.o` sv.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" pp.o` pp.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" scope.o` scope.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" pp_ctl.o` pp_ctl.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" pp_sys.o` pp_sys.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" doop.o` doop.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" doio.o` doio.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" regexec.o` regexec.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" utf8.o` utf8.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" taint.o` taint.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" deb.o` deb.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" universal.o` universal.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" xsutils.o` xsutils.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" globals.o` globals.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" perlio.o` perlio.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" perlapi.o` perlapi.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" numeric.o` numeric.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" locale.o` locale.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" pp_pack.o` pp_pack.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" pp_sort.o` pp_sort.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> rm -f libperl.a
> /usr/local/bin/ar rcu libperl.a perl.o gv.o toke.o perly.o op.o regcomp.o
dump.o util.o mg.o reentr.o hv.o av.o run.o pp_hot.o sv.o pp.o scope.o pp_ctl.o
pp_sys.o doop.o doio.o regexec.o utf8.o taint.o deb.o universal.o xsutils.o
globals.o perlio.o perlapi.o numeric.o locale.o pp_pack.o pp_sort.o
> rm -f opmini.c
> cp op.c opmini.c
> `sh cflags "optimize='-O'" opmini.o` -DPERL_EXTERNAL_GLOB opmini.c
> CCCMD = gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> rm -f opmini.c
> gcc -L/usr/lib/sparcv9 -L/usr/local/lib -o miniperl \
> miniperlmain.o opmini.o libperl.a
>
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparcv9-sun-solaris2.8/3.2.1/../../../../sparcv9-sun-sola
ris2.8/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/local/lib/libgcc.so when searching for
-lgcc
>
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparcv9-sun-solaris2.8/3.2.1/../../../../sparcv9-sun-sola
ris2.8/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/local/lib/libgcc.so when searching for
-lgcc
> libperl.a(util.o): In function `Perl_my_socketpair':
> util.o(.text+0x6270): undefined reference to `socketpair'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_pow':
> pp.o(.text+0x3d78): undefined reference to `pow'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_modulo':
> pp.o(.text+0x4bcc): undefined reference to `floor'
> pp.o(.text+0x4c08): undefined reference to `floor'
> pp.o(.text+0x4c84): undefined reference to `fmod'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_atan2':
> pp.o(.text+0xb274): undefined reference to `atan2'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_sin':
> pp.o(.text+0xb420): undefined reference to `sin'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_cos':
> pp.o(.text+0xb60c): undefined reference to `cos'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_exp':
> pp.o(.text+0xbc90): undefined reference to `exp'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_log':
> pp.o(.text+0xbed0): undefined reference to `log'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_sqrt':
> pp.o(.text+0xc124): undefined reference to `sqrt'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_sysread':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x6398): undefined reference to `recvfrom'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_send':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x7210): undefined reference to `sendto'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x7230): undefined reference to `send'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_socket':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x8d20): undefined reference to `socket'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_sockpair':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x9268): undefined reference to `socketpair'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_bind':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x95f8): undefined reference to `bind'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_connect':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x98ac): undefined reference to `connect'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_listen':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x9b0c): undefined reference to `listen'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_accept':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x9dac): undefined reference to `accept'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_shutdown':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0xa1c8): undefined reference to `shutdown'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_ssockopt':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0xa53c): undefined reference to `getsockopt'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0xa604): undefined reference to `setsockopt'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_getpeername':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0xa8b0): undefined reference to `getsockname'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0xa8c4): undefined reference to `getpeername'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_gnetent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x126a8): undefined reference to `getnetbyname'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x1271c): undefined reference to `getnetbyaddr'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x1272c): undefined reference to `getnetent'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12758): undefined reference to `h_errno'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x1275c): undefined reference to `h_errno'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12764): undefined reference to `h_errno'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x1276c): undefined reference to `h_errno'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_gprotoent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12a38): undefined reference to `getprotobyname'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12a78): undefined reference to `getprotobynumber'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12a88): undefined reference to `getprotoent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_gservent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12d78): undefined reference to `getservbyname'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12e08): undefined reference to `getservbyport'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12e18): undefined reference to `getservent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_snetent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x130ac): undefined reference to `setnetent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_sprotoent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x13158): undefined reference to `setprotoent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_sservent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x13204): undefined reference to `setservent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_enetent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x132c0): undefined reference to `endnetent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_eprotoent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x1337c): undefined reference to `endprotoent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_eservent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x13438): undefined reference to `endservent'
> libperl.a(doio.o): In function `Perl_do_openn':
> doio.o(.text+0x1a10): undefined reference to `getsockname'
> libperl.a(pp_pack.o): In function `Perl_pack_cat':
> pp_pack.o(.text+0x84b4): undefined reference to `floor'
> pp_pack.o(.text+0x84e4): undefined reference to `floor'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [miniperl] Error 1
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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
David Foster National Center for Microscopy and Imaging Research
Programmer/Analyst University of California, San Diego
dfoster[at]ucsd[dot]edu Department of Neuroscience, Mail 0608
(858) 534-7968 http://ncmir.ucsd.edu/
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
depends on the unreasonable." -- George Bernard Shaw
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