Re: Licensed Penetration Tester LPT

From: Richard Van Luvender (rvanluve@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Apr 27 2006 - 09:17:24 EDT


Correct. Do not confuse the certification "Licensed Penetration Tester" with
a government recognized licensure program. However the potential exists for
someone in the proper position to take an existing certification program,
and submit it for consideration as a sanctioned license to conduct forensic
investigations. The credential must have several components, minimum
requirements of eligibility, an exam that can validly evaluate the
candidates knowledge and skill, a practical component to obtaining the
certification, a code of conduct, and a continuing education requirement.

Rick

On 4/26/06 4:54 PM, "xelerated" <xelerated@gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually, you have to be a licensed Private Investigator,
not a certified pen
> tester.

I think it was on the register's site.

On 4/26/06, Phil Frederick
> <flosofl@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is happening now. Georgia has pending
> legislation for forensic
> examination of information systems. If you aren't
> licensed as an
> Investigator in the state, you can be charged with a felony
> if the law
> passes.
>
> I can't find a link, but I swear I read this a couple
> days ago.
> Anyone have any info, or was I hallucinating :)
>
> On 4/25/06, v
> b <r0cketgrl@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > All funning aside, this was included in a
> topic of a
> > BoF at the recent ShmooCon held in DC. The speakers
> >
> contended that unless the community becomes
> > self-policing, there WOULD
> eventually be government
> > legislation to license information security
> >
> practitioners. Interesting theory. I like the idea
> > of shipping all
> unlicensed practitioners to Lincoln.
> > Could do wonders for that local
> economy. :-)
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> > --- Dogten <dogten@d3fcon.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Mark Teicher wrote:
> > > > Why not license security
> engineers/gurus like they
> > > do social workers, plumbers and doctors.
> > >
> >
> > > > Then after one gets everyone to comply, partner
> > > with an
> insurance company to offer liability and
> > > malpractice insurance to the
> licensed penetration
> > > testers, just in case someone accidently shuts
> down
> > > a life support system in a hospital as they are
> > > scanning
> random Class 'C's on the internet or
> > > hijacking root DNS servers in order
> to play audio
> > > streams.
> > > >
> > > > For those who do not comply, set
> up Senate
> > > hearings, and send out letters to those who do not
> > >
> comply, "Are you an unlicensed penetration tester?"
> > > If yes, please list
> all your friends, neighbors, etc
> > > that may or may not be unlicense
> penetration
> > > testers. Once they have rounded up all the non
> > >
> complying penetration testers, escort them to local
> > > train stations, and
> guide them onto the train, where
> > > they will be taken to re-education
> camps in Lincoln,
> > > Nebraska. --:)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original
> Message-----
> > > >
> > > >> From: Dogten <dogten@d3fcon.org>
> > > >> Sent:
> Apr 20, 2006 10:08 PM
> > > >> To: Steve Friedl <steve@unixwiz.net>
> > > >>
> Cc: pen-test@securityfocus.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: Licensed Penetration
> Tester LPT
> > > >>
> > > >> Steve Friedl wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> If it's
> not from the government, it's not a real
> > > license.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> where does literary license come in? the media
> > > certainly practices it
>
> > > >> with impunity.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> -dogten, C�ISSP
> > > >>
> _________________
> > > >> Fight the power and the power will fight back
> > >
> >> Your only as good as the system you hack
> > > >> If you become a problem
> you will be replaced
> > > >> Banned, shut down, erased !
> > > >>
> > > >>
>
> > > >>
> > >
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