From: Dogten (dogten@d3fcon.org)
Date: Thu Apr 20 2006 - 02:21:28 EDT
Maudite MLRL wrote:
> Err.
> Helps "convince" HR you know something.
>
> I have met a lot of "Certified" people who take a good test. And yes I
> have a lot of certs, but they were/are "required" after I already had
> the positions.
>
> You should really "know" something. If you end up on the other side of
> the table from people like me or Pand0ra during an interview and you
> can't answer technical or policy items you have stated on a resume, it
> will be embarrassingly painful.
>
> Like the CCIE we interviewed that could not explain a 3 way handshake
> in simple terms (or at all for that matter.)
>
> Maudite
>
> A list of my irrelevant certs:
> CISSP, soon CISA, CEH
>
>
> On 4/18/06, ilaiy <ilaiy.e@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Helps the "Human Resources" to see and understand you know something.
>>
>> ./thanks
>> ilaiy
>>
>> On 4/17/06, Mambo <mamboz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think CHECK adds more value.
>>>
>>> On 17 Apr 2006 12:22:11 -0000, cenkornek@yahoo.com <cenkornek@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi group,
>>>>
>>>> I am a CEH (Certified Ethical hacker)from e-council. Is there anyone out there who has taken LPT (Licensed Penetration Tester) certificate from e-council? Would you recommend it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> Cenk Kaan ORNEK
>>>>
>>>>
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I am not big on certs (despite having been forced to get some to make
upper management happy) but I have a hard time believing a CCIE does not
understand the basic formation of a tcp connection. That's just sad.
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