RE: Triggering IDS

From: chewy (chewy@pandora.be)
Date: Thu Mar 16 2006 - 01:26:03 EST


Hi Adam,

A DNS version query is what we use to trigger NIDS sensors.
It does not matter whether the destination response yes or no since its
UDP and the trigger is the query. This can be performed to any host no
matter if the host has UDP 53 in listening state or not.
If you have allot of NIDS sensors then port scanning might be noisy.
Also this might not work against a firewalled host.
The same counts for the DNS query.
Another option and the most preferred one is writing your own signature.
I prefer UDP or another stateless protocol to avoid real session
creation.
Am not 100% certain but I do not think there is a real industry standard
packet for this.

Gr,
David

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Van: AdamT [mailto:adwulf@gmail.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 15 maart 2006 16:09
Aan: pen-test@securityfocus.com
Onderwerp: Triggering IDS

Dear all,

Y'know how there's the EICAR anti virus test file, which lets you see
if your anti-virus is working, well, I was wondering if there was
something similar to let you see what happens when your IDS triggers?

Should I just send a lot of NOPs in a TCP session, or make obvious
port scans, or is there some kind of 'industry standard' way to
deliberately trigger IDS alarms?

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AdamT
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