From: Mark Teicher (mht3@earthlink.net)
Date: Thu Feb 09 2006 - 17:02:10 EST
So a quick network security assessment using automated tools could result in a network security assessment that could take 8 hours from start to finish, as a remote service, which could be seen as the main attack point of hackers.?? Bad marketing speak in my mind, and a possible deliverable would be: an Executive Report, Top Threats to the Network Report, Threat Matrix Listing, Full Technical Report and an Outbriefing... Right there sounds like a lot of work or not depending on one's view. With some automated vulnerability assessment tools, the easier way to do this would be insert one's logo in the left or right hand corner of the automated report, add a few blurbs and send it out. Caveat: Verify the results before sending, some automated tools generate lots of false positives, one would be very foolish if they were to send a 18,000 page report with only two recommendations. BTW, recommending updated Cisco IOS to the current release may be an option, young jedi
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gail Thorpe <gail@sec-tec.co.uk>
>Sent: Feb 9, 2006 11:29 AM
>To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
>Subject: Re: Qualys
>
>Well, if we are going to get picky about terminology, surely a Class A
>environment means a network with a Class A subnet configured, not
>necessarily one with any particular number of hosts. Ever seen a 10.X.X.X
>network with three hosts on it? I have.
>
>The devil is in the detail, so be careful.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Justin Ferguson" <jnferguson@gmail.com>
>To: "Byron Sonne" <blsonne@rogers.com>
>Cc: "US Infosec" <usinfosec@gmail.com>; <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:19 AM
>Subject: Re: Qualys
>
>
>> Everyone seems to have missed what I think was his/her's point. He
>> asked the *technical* contact if they had every deployed in a Class A
>> environment (aka 16 million hosts), and he/she responded 'sure we've
>> supported clients with 60 thousand hosts!' (which isn't even a class b
>> btw), and the technical ignorance of their technical person is what
>> closed the door for ncircle. Or at least that is what I get out of his
>> email, not 'please tell me how i should deploy a vulnerability scanner
>> in my network' but rather a dialogue on the technical competence of
>> the employee's.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/8/06, Byron Sonne <blsonne@rogers.com> wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> > nCircle came to do a demonstration for my team once. I work in an
>>> > enviornment that has a full routable class A. I asked the technical
>>> > guy there if they had ever deployed their appliances in a Class A
>>> > enviornment and he said sure we have supported clients with 60K hosts.
>>> > That was the end of our consideration.
>>>
>>> How long ago did you give it a demo? That sounds like it must have been
>>> a good while ago, or perhaps there was a mis-understanding of some sort.
>>>
>>> For folks with class A networks, something that big you'd deploy
>>> multiple units of our product as per our product architecture and
>>> design, as most orgs of that kind of size have done.
>>>
>>> If you like, I could put you in touch with someone inside the company
>>> that could discuss any issues you had. If I may ask, who did you opt to
>>> go with instead of nCircle?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Byron
>>>
>>>
>>>
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