Re: Passwords with Lan Manager (LM) under Windows

From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] (sbradcpa@pacbell.net)
Date: Fri Sep 23 2005 - 12:47:21 EDT


There's an excellent chapter on Passwords in the Johansson/Riley
"Protect your Windows Network"

Amazon.com: Books: Protect Your Windows Network : From Perimeter to Data
(Microsoft Technology):
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0321336437/qid=1127493996/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-1141862-3682369?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

philippe.nospam.oechslin@objectif-securite.nospam.ch wrote:

>Hello Cedric!
>
>The characterset used for LanMan passwords is the OEM character set used in original IBM PCs.
>
>The reference to 142 characters probably refers to the number of chars that you could type on a standard keyboard.
>
>In recent Window OSs there is no limitation about the character set. You can use any 8bit character that you are able to type in a text box or on a command line.
>
>A quick test on my XP system show that characters above 127 can be used in "net user /add" command. Strangely enough some groups of them generate the same LMHash while generating different NThashes:
>
>128,135
>129,154
>130,144
>131,133,160
>132,142
>134,143
>136,137,138
>139,140,141,161
>145,146
>147,149,162
>148,153
>150,151,163
>152,255
>164,165
>228,229
>232,237
>
>which yields 106 different character above 127.
>
>from the lower 128 chars, tab, space and delete are not easy not enter in an input field.
>
>This leaves us with a total of 231 working characters...
>
> cheers,
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
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