RE: Fingerprinting Firewall

From: rzaluski (rzaluski@ivolution.ca)
Date: Mon Apr 11 2005 - 17:33:23 EDT


Another good way is to search job listings that deal with the company with
Online Job postings.. You can get a lot of information just from that
including such things as Firewall makes, models as well as their internal
architectures / systems.

Richard Zaluski
CISO, Security and Infrastructure Services
iVOLUTION Technologies Incorporated
905.309.1911
866.601.4678
www.ivolution.ca
rzaluski@ivolution.ca
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: intel96 [mailto:intel96@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:21 PM
To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Fingerprinting Firewall

One of the best way I have found to find out the type of firewall(s)
used is through the company's HR site, which sometimes has a completing
listing on firewalls, IDS, protocols, applications, and MUCH more.
When this does not work I also check firewall mailing list for
@targetcompany.com to see if anyone has posted.

intel96

Byron L. Sonne wrote:

>
>> We all know that, we can identify firewall using various methods and
>> tools like "firewalk".
>> Is there any method or tool available which will remotely fingerprint
>> and enumerate rule
>
> > base configured on the firewall?
>
> Well, more accurately put firewalk does not identify firewalls as much
> as it enumerates what kind of traffic will be passed as well as
> allowing you to figure out ACLs in use.
>
> Generally speaking I don't think you'll be able to come up with
> something along the lines of nmap that will allow you to determine
> what kind of firewall is in place. Certainly not reliably for all
> firewalls and in all situations; there's just to much variability in
> how rules can be configured or traffic scrubbed.
>
> What I do think is possible is the creation of a tool that will narrow
> the field down to a group of firewalls.
>
> However, I suppose that for peculiar situations, either from grievous
> design error or peculiar configurations, certain firewalls might stick
> out like a sore thumb. But my suspicions are that would be rare.
>





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