From: R. DuFresne (dufresne@sysinfo.com)
Date: Thu Jul 08 2004 - 16:02:48 EDT
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> Not to start a OS war, but I must admit, my fellow linux security penguins seem to know more about the depth of security than do my only MS friends. This kinda pushes me in the direction of thought that since linux guruship is so deep into the kernel/coding realm, that it's simply natural for my penguin friends to dive into the deep. Where perhaps since MS for the most part is so "USER/GUI" minded, that it's kinda a challenge to find the motivation or desire if you will, to really dig into what our fingertips can touch. I swear I'm not trying to start a os debate, I'm just speaking for what my eyes and ears witness. To sum it up from my perspective, *nix is for the scientist, MS,APPLE is for the USER. Please know, I do know a few MS gurus that know a hell of alot more than me, but know, they use linux/unix too and have been in the field since the days of blue boxs ;)
As red-hat and suse and a number of other dists of linux have become more
GUI focused, I have to admit the gurushjip of the basic linux devotee has
slipped off in the past 5+ years or so as well. And I'd bet this is about
the same timeframe Don Parker started to note his observations that lead
to this thread. Though GUI interfaces tend to hide the user from what's
happening under the hood of the OS, also to blame are the number of tools
that now automate much of what once was a trail and error till one had
engulfed indepth the knowledge of basics and advanced skills in the
various realms of adminship and security OS guardian, which tends to be a
'never ending story'...
Thanks,
Ron DuFresne
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we'd never learned in/from...
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