RE: CEH and Intense School

From: Ed Vazquez (ed.vazquez@dhha.org)
Date: Thu Nov 06 2003 - 15:37:47 EST


I'm curious, from my location the Security Associates Institute times
out and can't be reached, so what does ESA stand for? I have
searched Google, et. al and have turned up:

Educational Staff Associate
Exercise Safety Association
Ecological Society of America
Environmental Site Assessment

and a slew of others, but nothing obviously related to data security.

I'm not knocking the training since I can't reach the site and
actually read/learn about it, but I'm just wondering how many
"standard" certifications there are and at what point adding initials
to one's name reaches the border of the ridiculous (and yes, I put
initials after my name as well...).

-- 
Ed Vázquez, GCIA, NSA-IAM
The real difficulty, the difficulty which has baffled the sages of all
times, is rather this: how can we make our teaching so potent in the
emotional life of man, that its influence should withstand the
pressure of the elemental psychic forces in the individual?
- Albert Einstein
--On Thursday, November 06, 2003 18:01 +0000 Tony Brown 
<tony.brown@cnn.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> The contents as mentioned are a bit basic...
>
> Take a look at DefensiveHacking from Security Associates Institute,
> its more real world and UNIX based. The only problem is that these
> guys do not teach just this course, rather DefensiveForensics and
> DefensiveDeployment too! as a 5 days combo course so you get the
> "bug picture". Take a look at their site anyways
> (http://sainstitute.org)
>
> The ESA cert isn't bad either, we sent a few people through it who
> like me learnt more than they did before they attended the course!
>
> my 4 cents...
>
> Anthony Brown ESA, CISSP
> IT Security Manager
> CNN - London
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Turner [mailto:andrewhturner@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:47 PM
> To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
> Subject: CEH and Intense School
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am considering taking the Ethical Hacking course
> tought by Intense School.  Has anyone had experience
> with this training program?  If so, I would be very
> interested in hearing your comments on the program.
>
> Thanks in Advance!
>
> --
> Andrew H. Turner, CISSP
>
>
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