Re: Question re: load balancers as a security device

From: David Glosser (david_glosser@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Jan 22 2008 - 15:31:44 EST


-Sounds like employees at the ISP have access to those servers, and by extension, could get into your network.
-Many ISPs have "service" networks for backups and management - what if a server on the same backup segment has a virus and infects your machine and then jumps into your corporate address space?

-Unless the load balancers are doing some sort of filtering, it seems that the machines are being touched -- The load balancers basically deciding WHICH machine will be accessed, and pass everything, such as through the injection attempts, to the web server behind it....

----- Original Message ----
> From: "dan.tesch@comcast.net" <dan.tesch@comcast.net>
> To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:05:28 AM
> Subject: Question re: load balancers as a security device
>
> I'm new to a company that has a large number of sites parked on
> managed
>
 servers at a hosting facility - the servers, firewalls and
> load
>
 balancers are exclusive to our use but managed by the ISP.
>
> In reviewing our site design I have seen that the VPN between our
> LAN
>
 and the hosting facility permits all IP traffic in both directions
> -
>
 effectively making these public facing servers part of our LAN in
> my
>
 opinion.
>
> For obvious reasons I'm looking to change this. Nobody is
> lobbying
>
 against the change but a senior developer that was involved in
> the
>
 original design points out that because of the load balancers in front of
> the
>
 servers, the world at large is not able to touch the machines and
> thus
>
 the potential for compromise is limited.
>
> Could I get some comments from this community about how vulnerable
> or
>
 not this type of setup might be? I'm looking for specific info
> related
>
 to the load balancers not commentary about the corporate LAN in
> this
>
 situation - even if the combination of the firewalls and load
> balancers
>
 provide 99.9% protection I think it is a bad idea and would most
> likely
>
 not pass PCI scrutiny.
>
> Thanks
>
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