From: Rory McCune (rorym.forums@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Oct 21 2007 - 09:20:24 EDT
Hi,
>From what I understand of CREST, it's not actually intended as a
certification for individual Penetration Testers, but one for
Penetration Testing companies. Essentially it's intended as a
expansion of the UK government CHECK scheme for certifying penetration
testing companies/individuals, but more applicable to private
companies rather than purely government organisations.
I've spoken to several Penetration testing companies and most of them
are involved in CREST in some way or another, as such it's got a fair
bit of momentum going, although it's taken quite a bit longer than
expected to get everything set up. I'll wait to see what the quality
of the exams are when they come out.
Tiger on the other hand, I've not heard anything about from Pen
testing companies at all, and there doesn't seem to be any information
about specific industry backers on the site...
As to grandfathering, I know it's an inevitable part of setting up a
certification but t.b.h I'm not that impressed by requiring either CEH
or an MSc. CEH as it doesn't seem to be hugely well regarded, and MSc
because it's not exactly directly relevant to Penetration testing!
cheers
Rory
On 10/17/07, EH <penetration1@googlemail.com> wrote:
> All, I would value your opinion. I am trying to make a comparison
> between the 'new kids on the block' in terms of pen tester
> accreditation here in the UK, CREST and TIGERScheme, for my
> organisation. So far I've come up with the following information.
>
> CREST TIGER
> An existing examination No Yes
> Independent of suppliers No Yes
> End user driven No Yes
> Not for profit Yes? Yes
> Applicable to Individuals Yes? Yes
> Company standards Yes Yes (CCTM)
> Career path Yes? Yes
> University standard No Yes
> It seems that the TIGER Scheme www.tigerscheme.org is fully up and
> running and accrediting individuals already plus it is a University
> based examination which CREST www.crest-approved.org is not.
>
> I see from the CREST website that they are in support of the often
> maligned multiple guess CEH examination and will 'grandfather'
> individuals into the 'CREST approved' scheme if they have CEH. Now I
> am a CEH [amongst other things I hasten to add] and I sat the exam in
> early 2003. It was taken reasonably seriously then but it seems that
> the pen test communities opinion of the cert has deprecated somewhat
> over time ... so is CREST a re-branded EC-COUNCIL? If so will they go
> the same way?
>
> To grandfather into TIGER at the lowest level of certification you
> need an approved MSc in Computer Security. Basically any certs I
> recommend for my organisation I want to be taken seriously now and in
> future. I am heavily leaning towards TIGER.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> EH
>
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