Re: Anonymizing Packets yet ensuring 0 % packet loss

From: Vivek P (iamherevivek@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Sep 13 2007 - 16:41:39 EDT


hi
it was quick & impressive

we had worked on socks proxy! there are some mertis & demerits

the network on which we are testing (80 % target simulation) has some
filters which blocked it..

Are you aware of some technology though which i can employ dns
poisoning to route it to a virtual location !! where i have control !!

I am interested to do something at packet level cos setting up a proxy
also can be traced at the ISP level!!

Any suggestion to go about it would be appretiated!

thanx

On 9/14/07, Utmost Bastard <utmostbastard@gmail.com> wrote:
> Other then delivering a payload with a forged packet you will have to proxy
> through something.
>
> If you are reverse tunneling a shell it will need to relay through a proxy
> of sorts also if you truly need the originating IP concealed.
>
> Basically anything other then a one way connection is going to need a valid
> address to relay the data back and forth from.
>
> The first and only truly reliable thing I can think of is a good fast socks
> proxy.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vivek P" <iamherevivek@gmail.com>
> To: "Utmost Bastard" <utmostbastard@gmail.com>
> Cc: <security-basics@securityfocus.com>; "Pen-Testing"
> <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Anonymizing Packets yet ensuring 0 % packet loss
>
>
> > hi
> > thanks for the quick reply
> >
> > my goal is to hide my ip adress, the n/w packets will be pentest
> > related & general stuff!
> >
> > there is no torrent, but FTP, HTTP & regular communications will take
> > place from the setup!
> >
> > I am looking for a solution with which i can permanently show a
> > different IP adress! (not actual)
> >
> > i did try creating packets, the problem is that the reply doesnt come
> > back to me!!
> >
> > I was successful to broadcast a packet outside & it came back too..
> > but it was traceable (i used a carrier)... :-(
> >
> > i would appretiate some one discussins techncalities. I am okay with
> > coding a program fr the same!
> >
> >
> > On 9/14/07, Utmost Bastard <utmostbastard@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> PeerGuardian just uses preset "block lists" of IP addresses to function.
> >> If
> >> an IP address is met any protocol/port transferring or receiving data is
> >> blocked at the network layer.
> >>
> >> I do not think that is the goal you are trying to achieve.
> >>
> >> If this is for traffic such as torrent your IP will still be known from
> >> the
> >> tracker itself but you will not be sending or receiving data from any of
> >> the
> >> IP addresses you have in your list.
> >>
> >> http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/index.php ironically has a torrent to
> >> download the latest blocklist set.
> >>
> >> Hopefully this clears any questions up.
> >>
> >>
> >> UB
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Vivek P" <iamherevivek@gmail.com>
> >> To: <security-basics@securityfocus.com>; "Pen-Testing"
> >> <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:52 PM
> >> Subject: Anonymizing Packets yet ensuring 0 % packet loss
> >>
> >>
> >> > hi all
> >> >
> >> > I am on a lookout for IP hiding & anonymity for a project of mine!
> >> >
> >> > I was googlin for some time now! most amusing one that i came across
> >> > was that of Peer Guardian..
> >> >
> >> > I wanted to get directions frm hw best can i get my identity hidden!
> >> > atleast without using a proxy server from some providers (like
> >> > anonymiser)...
> >> >
> >> > the link for Peer Guardian is here: http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/
> >> >
> >> > I m pretty sure someone would have tried it..
> >> >
> >> > I am testing it as i am writing this query...
> >> >
> >> > thanks in advance
> >> > -------------------------------------------
> >> > Vivek P Nair
> >> > VP Tech
> >> > Appin Group Of Companies
> >> > Appin Security Group
> >> > Module III TBIU
> >> > IIT DELHI
> >> > Hauz Khaus
> >> > New delhi
> >> > India
> >> > www.appinlabs.com
> >> > vivek.p@appinlabs.com
> >> >
> >> > We explore... and you call us criminals.
> >> > We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals.
> >> > We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious
> >> > bias... and you call us criminals.
> >> > You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to
> >> > us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the
> >> > criminals.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity.
> >> > My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not
> >> > what they look like.
> >> > I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto.
> >> > You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all!
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> >
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Vivek P Nair
> > Vice President Technology
> > Appin Group Of Companies
> > Appin Security Group
> > Module III TBIU
> > IIT DELHI
> > Hauz Khaus
> > New delhi
> > India
> > www.appinlabs.com
> > vivek.p@appinlabs.com
> > +919910924675
> >
> > We explore... and you call us criminals.
> > We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals.
> > We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious
> > bias... and you call us criminals.
> > You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to
> > us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the
> > criminals.
> >
> > Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity.
> > My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not
> > what they look like.
> > I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto.
> > You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all!
>
>

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Vivek P Nair
Vice President Technology
Appin Group Of Companies
Appin Security Group
Module III TBIU
IIT DELHI
Hauz Khaus
New delhi
India
www.appinlabs.com
vivek.p@appinlabs.com
+919910924675
We explore... and you call us criminals.
We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals.
We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious
bias... and you call us criminals.
You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to
us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the
criminals.
Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity.
My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not
what they look like.
I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto.
You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all!
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