From: M.B.Jr. (marcio.barbado@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jul 20 2007 - 18:00:18 EDT
On 7/19/07, Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> On Jul 18, 2007, at 7:33 AM, M.B.Jr. wrote:
>
> > They do not have
> > the certifications yet and the voip application use obligation may
> > constitute one big barrier.
>
> How? I've never heard this argument before from anyone. I think
> it's a bogus argument.
I have mentioned how:
lacking transparency and bringing insecure technologies along with it.
> > It all starts like that. Like:
> > "yes sir, voip's great!"
> > Then:
> > "sir, why don't we provide our workforce with some voip enhanced
> > mobile devices?
> > check out this nice colored folder explaining it."
>
> This kind of thinking is one of the main reasons that users don't
> care about security - because instead of working to empower users to
> do what they need to do in a secure manner, 'security' personnel
> instead focus on trying to keep them from doing anything innovative
> or productive.
I respect the commercial doctrine your company tries to sell and even
the productivity paradigms inside Cisco's engineers' minds but I think
you need to acknowledge some statistics before writing such.
Users' constitute the main concern of any corporative network.
They will never be so aware as they should and from that point on, we
would be about to discuss the human nature which in not my speciality
nor my goal within this thread.
Have a nice day,
>
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