From: Shreyas Zare (shreyas@technitium.com)
Date: Thu Apr 12 2007 - 11:47:28 EDT
Hi,
Everyone almost is missing Mifa's statement which is, "Any other ideas
how we maight gain access? It has to be fast (bathroom breaks ect). I
dont have time to load a live cd. Further, robooting would cause the
user to loose work."
This means he has to do it quickly without rebooting the machine and
no live CDs as rebooting would make the target suspicious of the act.
So social engineering will work better in this case.
If he has enough powers, he can trojan the machine as its company's
property. And the target may be a real danger for the company's
security, who knows ?
Regards
On 4/12/07, dcdave@att.net <dcdave@att.net> wrote:
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> I agree with the many legal and ethical points mentioned.
>
> But if you just got to 'git'er'done', and you have physical access, Backtrack v2.0 has been very helpful to me.
> http://www.livedistro.org/release-announcements/gnu/linux-releases/backtrack-v2-0-public-beta-edition
>
> Autorun does not have to be enabled in the operating system, but BIOS has to be set for booting off CD. If this is password locked, then remove the hard drive and attach it on a nother machine which is not BIOS passworded. If there is whole disk encryption, then make a copy of the drive ('dd' is a *LOT* cheaper than ENCASE for one-time uses, although the latter has *MANY* useful tools).
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> That being said, I hope your reasons for suspecting misuse of corporate tools are strong enough to stand up over simple need for privacy and maintenance of entity-sensitive information with reasonable security if the situation gets out of hand and ends up in court...
>
> Warm Regards,
> Dave Druitt
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> -------------- Original message from "Chris Zevlas" <czevnow@cox.net>: --------------
>
>
> > How about you doing a remote image with Encase this way he will never know
> > what you did.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shreyas Zare"
> > To: "Pen-Testing"
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: Boot floppy
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Try using social engineering. Tell him you are given a job to patch
> > > all machines in the company for some security update then patch his
> > > machine with a good rootkit. You may give him the update (infected) in
> > > any CD or USB media so that he would install it himself. Or use any
> > > idea which will not look suspicious to the target.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > On 4/10/07, Mifa wrote:
> > >> We have a user who takes a company computer home with them (no its not a
> > >> lap top). We have a good reason to need to look at their files.
> > >> However, we want to do so without that employ knowing. They seem to know
> > >> something about security becasue auto runs is disabled and the
> > >> workstation is always locked with a third party software. INserting a U3
> > >> drive will not run a program either. Are there any programs that will
> > >> boot from a floppy then copy a program to the c drive then wite an auto
> > >> start entry into the registry? This was the only way I can think of to
> > >> get the user to install a program..
> > >>
> > >> Any other ideas how we maight gain access? It has to be fast (bathroom
> > >> breaks ect). I dont have time to load a live cd. Further, robooting
> > >> would cause the user to loose work.
> > >>
> > >>
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