From: Marios A. Spinthiras (mario@netway.com.cy)
Date: Wed Aug 23 2006 - 02:39:45 EDT
Arian how have you concluded that no evidence has been gathered? Indeed you
have a point but thats only towards the technical aspect of it all.
Reading onwards to social engineering really shows the human vulnerability
and the fact that we cant filter it all out , patch it. We can simply do
nothing more than an advisory does...
I do not know how serious you consider social engineering to be but if you
have not spent time with it please do so , I can offer you a lot of material
regarding this issue. Contact me personally if you would like the material.
Thanks,
Mario A. Spinthiras
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arian J. Evans" <arian.evans@anachronic.com>
To: <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: Penetration Testing - Human Factor
> I've seen nothing quantifiable.
>
> FWIW - every forensic engagement I have done of "true"
> hacking has had nothing to do with social engineering,
> and was entirely technical. Most appeared to be performed
> by SKiddies, but at least one was very subtle, and was
> performed by someone with real skill.
>
> I do see a biased sample though, since people do not
> generally come to me after they've been socially
> engineered, unless it's a girl I've dated.
>
> Your first statement does raise the question though
> about how does a skeptic conclude something before
> they gather evidence?
>
> Arian J. Evans
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marios A. Spinthiras [mailto:mario@netway.com.cy]
>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:20 AM
>> To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
>> Subject: Penetration Testing - Human Factor
>>
>> As a thorough sceptic Id like to conclude in most cases of a
>> TRUE hacking
>> incident social engineering has been a factor of success for
>> the malicious
>> user attacking a system.
>> For quite a while now I have been compiling methodology on the
>> assessment of the weak human security link which can be
>> exploited through
>> social engineering. Has anyone got any thoughts they would
>> like to share or
>> guidelines to the audit of the human factor when security is
>> concerned?
>>
>> Any information is much apreciated.
>>
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>> Mario A. Spinthiras
>>
>>
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