From: Mark Teicher (mht3@earthlink.net)
Date: Fri Jul 28 2006 - 07:06:26 EDT
You forget, shower on occassion.. :)
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>From: William Hancock <williamrhancock@gmail.com>
>Sent: Jul 27, 2006 6:24 PM
>To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
>Subject: Re: What is being a pen tester really like?
>
>It's just like them movie hackers. =D
>
>I'm about 50-50 with Chris, it is still just a job but when successfully
>done and you take all the pieces of the puzzle apart you feel like 'the
>man'. Business owners, your customers, really and truly are interested
>how you did it and what you did. It's not just, "Nice, thanks for all
>your code. Now get lost.". If you become a real professional you can
>guide business decision, you will command great respect from everyone,
>and you can afford to go to Disney land whenever the hell you want.
>
>The tricky part is there is no course, class, or video professor session
>that can make you in to a good pen tester. My personality has always
>been geared towards this line of work, but it was the 17 years of
>experience chipped away all the peripheral things that kept me from
>being really good at it. Things like being liked by everyone, the need
>to talk about things to 'be cool' in front of others, the need to try
>and be the uber geek in the room, and the ever present need to impress
>people need to get thrown out of the window.
>
>So I believe a pen tester encompasses the following things;
>An MBA
>A programmer
>A damn good sysadmin
>A public speaker
>"That guy" who everyone seems to really like, but you can't figure out why.
>The yardstick of professionalism that everyone should measure themselves by.
>The person the IT department is afraid to talk shop with cause you know
>more then they do.
>A professional writer
>An accountant
>A total and complete QA department
>And for the dark qualities;
>A bit of a theft at heart
>A gambler for certain
>The person not to get on the wrong side of cause you know what they're
>google-ing after hours.
>Perhaps an adrenaline junkie
>
>Um, yep that about covers it, just my two cents.
>
>Regards,
>Bill
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~
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>
>Chris Serafin wrote:
>> It's still a job
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> rahul.joshi2@googlemail.com wrote:
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently a Java developer but I'm seriously thinking of
>>> changing paths to a career in security and pen testing.
>>> What I would like to know is what is being a pen tester really like?
>>> I understand the functions a pen tester performs, but I would really
>>> love to hear what it is actually like on a day-to-day basis, on the
>>> coal face so to speak. What are the good things about the job, and
>>> what are the bad?
>>>
>>>
>>> Your experiences/advice would be hugely appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rahul
>>>
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