Re: [SPAM] RE: Pen-Test as a favor

From: Dogten (dogten@d3fcon.org)
Date: Thu Jul 13 2006 - 21:58:11 EDT


techlists@comcast.net wrote:
> I would like to second that suggestion about practicing with the tools in your own lab first.
>
> I had a friend that ran a small ISP that allowed me to try a vulnerability scan on his network, with my promise that the tools wouldn't change anything; it would all be passive testing.
>
> Nessus, it seems (at least at that time, maybe different now), when running an IIS test, deleted the index.htm file on a webserver, which wiped out this fellow's online webmail application. Needless to say, he was quite a bit peeved at the "service" I was providing him "as a favor".
>
> When someone's livelihood is depending on the network you're testing, you don't want to make such mistakes. Practice with your tools a lot before you touch someone else's network!
>
> PG
Such silliness, networks will collapse, servers will crash, it is
inevitable. The IIS admin should not have let his box be pentested
without a current bare-metal capable back up. Whether your friend knows
it or not you helped him see at least one thing he is grossly vulnerable
to. Ewwww, I hate ending in a preposition. Honesty in advertising for
pen-testers should have them begin converations with "do you have a
current tested backup mechanism and is your backup onsite and up to
date? good, some of my tools might crash stuff you did not configure
correctly...."

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