From: Robert E. Lee (robert@dyadsecurity.com)
Date: Thu Jun 08 2006 - 14:34:20 EDT
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:25:23 -0700
Larry Offley <lucullus@shaw.ca> wrote:
> I am curious what you base this statement on. As far as I am concerned
> anything that cuts down on threats helps. Would you consider port
> knocking as security through obscurity?.
Yes port knocking is more of the same. It's not really the right direction to head for a measurable increase in security. In fact port-knocking could potentially be found vulnerable to new attacks. As can devices that try to fake every port as being open.
> Isn't all security when distilled just security through obscurity?
No. Real security is a lot more scientific. There is a great list of early publications on the subject here: http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/history/index.html. If you haven't done so, have a read through the Orange Book (http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/history/dod85.pdf), and what security evaluation has become in the Common Criteria (http://www.commoncriteriaportal.org/).
> It is all about raising the bar.
Depends on your goals. That may not be sufficient for more sensitive environments.
Robert
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