Re: Pen-testing Internships?

From: Erin Carroll (amoeba@amoebazone.com)
Date: Wed Jun 07 2006 - 13:25:38 EDT


All,

I let this one on to the list more to discuss internships and various ways
to obtain a working portfolio/knowledge in general and what list members
have done or seen work in the past. If you wish to address Rob Kraus'
specific interests (internship offers etc) please email him directly to
reduce list clutter. I'd really prefer Rob's submission kick off a
discussion which would apply to anyone seeking working experience in
pen-testing.

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, rkraus@unguarded.org wrote:

> Hello List!
>
> I have been monitoring this list for some time now and find it to be a
> very good resource for learning and collaboration among IT Security
> professionals. Here is my dilemma. I am fairly well versed in network
> security and spend as much time as I can in learning more and applying
> what I already know. My IT experience in design and implementation is
> fairly good and work with customers daily to provide reliable solution to
> concerns and expanding infrastructure.
>
> My goal is ultimately to become a full-time penetration tester and network
> security analyst. Even though with my experience I do not feel 100%
> comfortable with offering these services to customers at this time simply
> because I have not been field tested in the area of penetration testing as
> of yet. At least not on a customer-provider type of relationship.
>
> The next logical step for me is to try and gain experience to add to my
> portfolio and reputation. I guess the nitty-gritty of things is that I
> need to put myself where I am working beside professionals in the field to
> gain experience directly.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1. Does anyone know of any opportunities to work beside people in the
> field now, an internship possible? (I am not looking for pay, just
> experience)
> 2. Does anyone know if there is mentor type program to help me get to my
> goals?
> 3. Is there anyone on this list that would be able or willing to provide
> me with the opportunity of such a position?
>
> I know this sounds straight forward, as I usually like to get to the point
> of things. At this point even having a person like me doing nmap and
> general footprinting as an apprentice would even make me happy. I would
> also be open to a phone interview for such a position just to elaborate on
> what my capabilities are currently. Even if there is no opportunity out
> there I would be very happy if someone would even just talk to me offline
> via phone so I can explain where I am at and maybe give me some advice to
> get me to where I want to go.
>
> I would be interested in any advice from the list on both technical and
> business side of penetration testing/security auditing to broaden my
> knowledge.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob Kraus
> San Antonio, Texas
>
>
>
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