From: Jim Turner (JTurner@hertz.com)
Date: Mon Jul 19 2004 - 00:47:17 EDT
Funny, I've got over 150 web-facing Linux servers, and not one has been
hacked. Ever. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Of course, none of my 100+ HP-UX boxes have ever been hacked, either.
Maybe I'm doing something right?
SLOWlaris? You can keep it. I prop my lab door open with an old Sparc20.
Why am I "crazy about Linux"? How about commodity hardware, a ton of
DLKM's, highly-customizable, easily and effectively secured (for some
people, anyway) just to name a few.
Enjoying the perspective that comes with 20 years' experience with various
OS's (S/390, UNICOS, VMS, Irix, Solaris, BSD, HP-UX, Linux, and Winblows),
I can assure you that there are times when Linux is the right tool for the
right job.
Is Linux the right answer every time? No.
Is Linux the right answer none of the time? No.
Is Linux here to stay and destined to grow? Yes.
Good luck in your job hunting.
To
"Ayson, Alison {Info~Palo Alto}"
Stephanie Chung <alison.ayson@ROCHE.COM>, hpux
<stepchung@yahoo.com> <hpux-admin@DutchWorks.nl>
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07/17/2004 05:15 PM
Subject
[HPADM] Re: OT: Thoughts on Linux,
Future? or not?
Alison,
"Amen!" You really nailed this issue. I don't
understand why people are crazy about "Linux". They
don't look at the big picture. Linux is not a big deal
after all. I work with HPUX, Linux and Solaris. If my
boss pushes me to go with Linux on our critical
production environment, I will resign before I get
fired. Linux security and support are a huge pain in
the neck. In my 5 years with HPUX, Linux and Solaris,
I got hacked in 36 times on Linux, 14 times on Solaris
and ZERO time on HPUX. “Cheap” is not a
solution. In the long run, “Cheap” will
come back and bite you big time. My comment is
“if you have a good and secured system, stick
with it. Do not change to Linux.”
Stephanie
--- "Ayson, Alison {Info~Palo Alto}"
<alison.ayson@ROCHE.COM> wrote:
> I haven't posted in awhile so I hope "OT" is still
> the right symbol for
> "Off Topic"
>
> I've been an HP-UX administrator for over 10 years
> (some Solaris and SGI
> too, but mostly HP-UX). Lately there has been a big
> push within our
> company to look at Linux, specifically RedHat (AS
> 3.0 and 2.1). It
> seems that everyone wants to jump on the Linux
> bandwagon, but I'm not
> convinced Linux is the all-encompassing solution
> that so many seem to
> think it is.
>
> The biggest motivation for moving to Linux is
> financial (from the
> "higher ups" that is). The hardware is cheaper and
> so is the OS.
> However, it's been my experience--so far at
> least--that what you save in
> hardware and software you quickly use up in Sys
> Admin time. I have
> spent so many hours trying to get a particular
> driver to load, or a
> piece of "freeware" software to compile; something
> that would have taken
> minutes on an HP-UX server. And support from RedHat
> is a joke! The
> quickest response I've gotten so far to a reported
> problem was 72 hours
> (usually it's 2 weeks, one question has been pending
> for 3 months no
> with no response). Luckily we bought 1 year of
> support from HP for one
> of our Linux servers; I can get an answer from HP
> fairly quickly. So far
> we have very few Linux servers so I haven't gotten
> overwhelmed----yet.
> However if I had 20 or so linux servers to maintain,
> and everytime I had
> to make some sort of change to that server I had to
> spend hours
> recompiling the kernel or whatever...the situation
> could quickly become
> a nightmare.
>
> I wondered what some of the other HP Sys Admins out
> there think about
> Linux? Have your experiences been positive or have
> you experienced some
> of the same difficulties.
>
> Thanks for any feedback.
>
> -- Alison Ayson
> Roche Bioscience
> Palo Alto, CA
>
>
>
>
>
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